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to beat president obama. a look at the war in afghanistan. now the longest war. how do we get out? does obama's policy differ from president bush's and what is the effect for generations to come? joe and mika and willie join in the conversation later this hour. we begin with the debt crisis. they are trying to make a deal on the deficit. houses of congress are rolling out separate compromises to safe off a default. harry reid is meeting with mitch mcconnell to craft a solution to appeal to both parties. according to reports, this would do the following. it would allow the debt ceiling to be raised three times for a total of $2.5 trillion. in exchange, some $1.5 trillion in spending cuts would be enacted. the plan would be established to identify new deficit cuts. proposal, already, getting a lukewarm response from the fellow republicans. among them, the freshman snar mark arubio and tom coburn. take a listen. >> it gives the president the ability to raise the debt limit. the debt limit isn't the problem. the problem is the debt. the plan, as outlined to me isn't a credible solution. >>
.s. military objectives in iraq and afghanistan with the center for strategic international studies and we will talk about the debt ceiling debate and the 2012 campaign with the former chairman of the democratic national committee, tim kaine and fox news andtucker carlson. "washington♪ host: today is wednesday, july 13. we begin by talking about the continuing negotiations regarding the gatt talks happening on capitol hill -- devt talks happening on capitol hill. we will have coverage of that on c-span.org. the first 45 minutes, we want to talk about some of the items in the headlines this morning. "l.a. times," debt talks grow more desperate. senators at merger -- urgent three stage process. it would have a last choice option. for the first 45 minutes, republicans only. we want to get your thoughts on republican leadership handling the debt talks. the numbers are on the screen. if you are in the eastern and central time zone for the first. the second if you are in the mountain and pacific time zones. for the first 45 minutes, just republicans talking about the republican congressional
, defense secretary leon panetta is in afghanistan. panetta is meeting with american military leaders and afghan officials. nbc's atia abawi is in kabul this morning. bring us up to speed on what leon panetta is saying that al qaeda is basically on the run and close to being completely stamped out. >> reporter: good morning, thomas. the new secretary of defense's first trip as the defense secretary here in afghanistan, prior to arriving he talked to reporters on the plane about how he feels alg al qaeda is going right now, the war against terror. he says the strategic defeat of al qaeda is within reach, primarily pointing the the death of bin laden, the information they got from the compound including names of different key al qaeda leaders. he says this is the time to actually end the war with al qaeda. let's listen to what he had to say. >> now is the moment following what happened with bin laden, to put maximum pressure on them because i do believe that, if we continue this effort, that we can really cripple al qaeda. >> reporter: al qaeda aside, leon panetta arrived in afghanistan
, nbc news, oslo, norway. >>> as the u.s. prepares to withdraw troops from afghanistan, another setback to report tonight. a suicide bombing has killed the mayor of kandahar, afghanistan's second largest city. the mayor who, by the way, was a dual afghan-u.s. citizen was killed when an assassin detonated explosives hidden in his turban as the mayor met with tribal elders. >>> we have been reporting this week on the famine affecting millions in the horn of africa. today, a plane carrying the first airlift of urgently needed nutritional supplements landed in somalia. the shipment will be distributed to medical facilities to help starving children. >>> when we come back, the troubled life and far too early death of an olympian we got to know in vancouver. speedy as he was, he couldn't outrun his demons. >>> and later, closing the doors of an american institution after more than 100 years. >>> the games will be ready. the taxis will be ready. and all of the people of london will be ready to welcome the world's finest athletes to the greatest games that have ever been held in the greatest ci
the threat of default or downgrade. >> ron insana there. meanwhile, u.s. troops in afghanistan are worried they may not get paid because of this debt showdown in washington. gener good saturday morning to you, atia. so what was this meeting with the troops like? >> reporter: good morning, alex. the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, admiral mullen, made his way down to the southern part of afghanistan, the most volatile part in the country. his number one question from the soldiers, airmen, sailors and marines wasn't necessarily about the military strategy but it was, will we get paid. and his response was, i actually don't know the answer to that question. i have confidence that at some point in time whatever compensation you are owed you will be given. obviously the americans here in afghanistan, very worried about what's going on in washington. many of these men and women haven't seen their families for several months. many won't see them for a full year and they're wondering if those family members are going to be getting those paychecks. they're risking their lives here in afghani
. >> in terms of large operational bases at 9/11, they had afghanistan. to plan, to recruit, to store material, to train, to strategize in safety. today they still have part of afghanistan. they have a big swath of pakistan. they're in yemen. they're in somalia. they're all the way across north africa in a growing movement that's now reaching down into the western part of africa. and so just objectively you really don't need an opinion. you just need to look at the facts, sir. al qaeda is much bigger and much more geographically dispersed than it was at 9/11. >> chad, would you agree with that? and what kind of operations are we talking about in places like algeria and eenggypt compared t what they had in afghanistan when they had the harboring government of the taliban? >> i couldn't agree more with michael. and i'd actually go a step further to say not only is he right that they have now expanded geographically and have multiple launch points for operations but if we step back and look at that map you'll see it lays over very nicely with what we're witnessing with the arab spring. we're also
the civil war in afghanistan. i do not understand why members of congress want to spend $10 billion a month in afghanistan when our people back home are struggling. i can assure you the american people do not understand it, either. in june, a poll was conducted by the pew research center where 56% of the american people polled said bring our troops home now. not later. mr. speaker, i brought back the picture of edy and stephanie. their father and lieutenant colonel palmer, died, and that continues to haunt me. and the way they died continues to haunt me. that's the reason i wanted to bring this picture down here again. they were given the task to train afghans to be policemen. the two were shot and murdered by one of the trainees. what really haunts me is the email sergeant baldwin sent to his wife the day before he was shot and killed. i quote the email, i don't trust them. i don't trust them. for anything. not for anything at all. why in the world do we continue to send our young men and women overseas to get theirselves blown up, shot, and murdered by people they are trying to train? the
with tax cry says, they're using a huge chunk of change to fund the war in afghanistan. that bill is almost 1$118 billion. that's for base security, reconstruction, foreign aid and other related expenses. manis manisha. >> is all that taxpayer money really going where it's supposed to go? a source with knowledge of that tells cnn they've uncovered a scandal. part of it was diverted into the hands of afghan power brokers and also into the hands of -- get this -- itself. what's the story? >> well, this is coming from an internal document that has yet to be released. effectively what it's saying is rufrly three quarters of the cost allocated to eight companies here in afghanistan, trucking companies, has been miss appropriated in some ways. there seems to be a sears of contracts and subcontracts in which the money had been funneled down into different groups and in some cases ended up in the hands of the taliban. the question is how could something like this happen? well, it seems pretty clear that keeping track of subcontractor dollars even in washington is difficult. in afghanistan, however,
, the which he and debt crisis are weighing heavily on u.s. troops in afghanistan. and the top question on their minds saturday, even as bombings rock the city around them, was the top u.s. military officer couldn't answer. a question he couldn't answer. will we -- these are soldiers in afghanistan with bombs bursting around them and here is what the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff said. and i quote, i actually don't know the answer to that question. i noknow mike mcmullen responde while at the same time saying continuing to work each day, wearing the uniform, listening to bombs go off around them. that's why today we have with us some -- what is referred to you by you press folks as real people. i guess we're not. we have students like laura and sydney, veterans like bill and roger and carlos, arianna, who is a senior, guillermo, who say senior, lucia, a senior, felicia is a senior, mary ellen is a senior, alisa is a senior, they're here representing the millions of people around this country who are as brave as the soldiers on the front lines in afghanistan. we don't have time f
out in afghanistan or ahmed wali karzai. the president wept openly during the burial at one point climbing inside the grave to help move his brother's body. ahmed karzai was murdered yesterday by a trusted body guard. >>> there will be a second memorial service in michigan tonight for former first lady betty ford. she died friday at age 93 was mourned at funeral services yesterday in palm desert, among those attending, rosalyn carter, hillary clinton. >>> prince fielder got mvp for this three-run homer in the fourth inning. >>> 14 minutes past the hour. here's chris. >> thanks so much. >>> a blistering heat wave continues across large sections of the country, from texas to the east coast while parts of the northeast will finally see some relief today. cbs's betty nguyen is in times square with more for us today. hi betty. >> reporter: hi there chris. we've been lucky in new york, seen temperatures in the high 90s but in the plains states, this heat wave is fueling one of the worst droughts that many have seen in decades. crippling heat gripped half of the nation tuesday as the nat
and afghanistan to the relatives of the 2005 london transit bombings as well as the royal family. the editor has been arrested. david cameron has opened a public inquiry. for the first time in over a month, the yemen president spoke out. he's gone over eight operations. his complexion was darker, hands and arms covered with bandages. facial hair was gone. he made no mention of when he would return to yemen and welcomes power sharing as long as it is within the country's constitutional frame work. diplomats said there was a slim chance he would return. tell me what this means and your reaction to what you saw in terms of his appearance. >> it was bizarre. it's part of a larger power. look at yemen and egypt. what you see are prolonged stalemates and situation that is looked helpful. the middle east is in for a long, hot summer. a difficult winter and beyond. this is not going to be anything like a quick move to democracy and these countries. you can have large, ungoverned spaces where terrorists move in. it's a challenge for the united states. >> what is the largest threat to our national securit
they get to afghanistan. we want you to listen and watch some of the things that we saw when we went there. >> the wounds appear to be superficial. >> 15 up, and ten minutes back. category a, priority one. >> reporter: every day, dozens of trauma patients are wheeled here. this man came from multiple stab wounds. but right alongside the civilian trauma doctors, nurses and techs, military personnel. >> the injuries that i have treated here and see here at this hospital are the closest thing to the injuries that i saw in iraq that i experienced in the continental of the united states. i have had a gentleman whose entire scalp was torn off in an industrial accident, and i have an individual who was now involved in a motor vehicle accident, and we have to rerecrate the skull like we have to do in an ied blast. >> if you suffer one of these traumas, but if you do, there is going to be medical personnel who was in the medical war zone, either as a reservists, or who served in active duty and then retired and went into private practice in communities across the country. doctors tell us what they
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meant that conservatives need to rethink our presence in afghanistan. >> >> question, next year's g.o.p. presidenti p mares, will defense spending be nds off a wedge issue@that divides the contendsers? >> i thk they're alrey divided. i think tim pawlenty is tang a super-hawk pro defense, we're not @@going to cut defense spending stance. other candidates, ronpaul, jon huntsman are for@shrinking the dget. it about 5%. at the ends of the clinton era it was 3. i think there's tremendo appetite in both parties to lower defense spendi. what will @@republicans offer t democrats in return for getting entitlement reform and they don't want raise@taxes. they might office defen cu. >> south carolina senator setor grahamcan't imagine a repuican running to the left of president @@obama on defense but i thk it's reall9 hard to see what is the emerging rldview ming from this sets republans but they've been freed by the@fact there's a democrat in the white house to be @@critical of military engagements but haven't defined and@what they uld do 'ithout that. >> what @@do you think? two prisms. one i
believes by saying that they will cut a trillion dollars but unwinding the iraq and afghanistan wars and that shouldn't be part of the budgeting this process. the other thing i thought speaker boehner said that was quite interesting was that he kept saying that this is a crisis that the president has created. so you do see some of that blame game going on as you were saying from each of these bully pulpits. >> ifill: he said this was in stalemate in congress, even though after watching the two plans that neither agreed on would you thought the stalemate was happening somewhere. >> right. i think the speaker is trying to avoid sort of being labeled as intransigent. he has a tough job. he has the house republicans in his conference who simply, many of them won't vote to increase the debt limit no matter what but simply don't want to budge in any way whatsoever here. and so what speaker boehner is sort of, what you hear there is him trying to put off the blame elsewhere. he doesn't want to accept it all on his turf. >> ifill: we have about ten seconds left. what has to happen next. they
contract in afghanistan that moves more than 70% of the goods and materiel that u.s. troops need at their remote fire bases, moves it all across afghanistan. the military in kabul looked at this $2 billion plus contract and found payoffs and corruption. one u.s. official telling us, and we quote from what he explained to us, that when they looked at it there were concerns about, quote, fraudulent paperwork and behavior, indications dollars were flowing to criminals and the enemy. what we are talking about is a web of payoffs. the contractors who run the trucking companies, hire subcontractors, the subcontractors then pay or police and security officials who pay off the taliban or criminals so that their trucks get safe passage across insurgent zones in afghanistan. is it realistic at this point that any of this will ever change. we spoke to a top analyst about this. >> when you have the, you know, extent of corruption that we may have seen with some of these contracts, that's clearly not acceptable and they have to change the way they are doing business, but, you know, like i sai
of afghanistan and iraq. >> the republicans we have on the show say they are open to the loophole cuts. are they? >> tom coburn is. he provides a lot of cover. >> i was wondering what mike was quoting. how many pages can you get read in the seventh inning stretch? >> it's in between innings. it's the entire game. >> the tough thing for president obama, he's going to say he will extend the deadline, if it looks like a deal is coming together. this, to me, is the difficult part. if all he had to deal with was the senate, i have no doubt in the next week you would have a deal that would work. the house is difficult. he's going to need to know from nancy pelosi and john boehner the votes are in place. today, not even close to that. >> you will lose 100, maybe 120 republicans right out. if you get most of the democratic caucus and boehner pulls in 100 republicans, it gets done. it's up to the democrats. i think boehner can get 100 republicans. can pelosi get 120 democrats? >> right. okay. we are going to get to bill karins on the heat in a minute. before we go, new developments in the hacking scandal
than a hundred al qaeda operatives in afghanistan. i'm not sure how he got that number but a u.s. official is saying al qaeda's power has diminished. i think the most important evidence is look back at the past ten years. al qaeda hasn't killed a single american on u.s. soil since 9/11 and it's such an important reminder for our viewers in america who have been infused with fear about al qaeda the past ten years. >> you talk about this infused fear. every so often, many a times throughout the year, we hear about chatter. there is chatter out there. there is chatter we should be concerned. what exactly do you think that means? because we never seem to get a definition on what that so-called "chatter" is. >> reporter: yeah, i'm not sure what chatter is. i think as journalists we have been guilty of not asking the tough questions. we have never asked what is chatter? we have never asked u.s. counterterrorism officials to show us evidence of chatter. and i think that is because of the impact of 9/11. this was the greatest american tragedy in recent memory. it had huge impact on ame
be the most egregious example to date of widespread corruption in afghanistan. american taxpayer money, hundreds of millions of dollars, ending up in the hands of the taliban. a year-long u.s. military task force discovered that the money was siphoned from a $2 billion transportation contract to provide most of the supplies to american troops. a source with knowledge of the investigation has briefed cnn about how it all went down. we are joined now from the afghan capital, kabul. just tell us briefly, how did this happen? >> reporter: this is coming from an internal report, but basically what happened was trucking companies subcontracted out to local entities here, who then in turn subcontracted out to even more local providers. what happened was it turns out that some of those local, more local firms actually had some ties to nefarious elements, including the taliban. what we see here is a bulk of the transportation costs being filtered through some of these trucking companies and part of that money is actually ending up in the hands of the very individuals who are fighting nato force
and not put them on the backs of our seniors. the wars in iraq and afghanistan, the president has already begun a drawdown a it could be significant so we save in the long run. making certain that people are back to work so they are contributing to our tax base in a way that we need. and we know that we have to raise revenue. we must race revenue. our seniors understand that. but what we cannot do is shift the burden for these things that were not caused by seniors onto the backs of our seniors by pushing them into really unfair cuts to their medicare and social security benefits. . mr. tonko: i'm going to do a bit of close and then ask each of the representatives that remain here on the floor, we were joined earlier by representative chu from california, to offer your sentiments and then we'll bring the hour to a close. but you know, what i think is very important to note is that if we can find ways to save on medicare we should invest that in medicare to strengthen medicare. if we can find ways to save in social security, reinvest in social security. they deserve to be stand alones beca
revenue in terms of what we are spending. $120 billion alone in afghanistan. alone. that doesn't include aid. 47, 000 troops still in iraq and we have tax cuts in place. >> the united states is strategically overextended worldwide. what are we doing borrowing money from japan and europe and persian gulf. we are overextended. >> exactly, pat. >> the country is overextended. you can't start fighting wars and not raise the revenue. >> maybe you ought to end the war. >> here we go. we have to do a little bit of everything. >> let's do one plan. we talk about both sides in broad strokes. walk us through what is actually inside the deficit reduction plan on each side. >> fair enough. >> simpson sets the standard. they came out with $4 trillion in deficit reduction. the paul ryan plan got about the same amount of deficit reduction, $4 trillion. the obama plan is $2.5 trillion of deficit reduction. the biden talks that have been going on are at zero, really, but they are talking $1 trillion spending cuts, maybe. by the way, even if the plan were adopted, we have $6 trillion more debt ten years f
very much. >>> you've heard about the billions of dollars the u.s. is spending in aid for afghanistan, but you probably didn't know this, as much as $10 million a day chris lawrence has more, coming up next. life count on yo. that's why we offer accident forgiveness, man: good job. where your price won't increase due to your first accident. we also offer a hassle-free lifetime repair guarantee, where the repairs made on your car are guaranteed for life or they're on us. these are just two of the valuable features you can expect from liberty mutual. plus, when you insure both your home and car with us, it could save you time and money. at liberty mutual, we help you move on with your life. so get the insurance responsible drivers like you deserve. looks really good. call us at... or visit your local liberty mutual office, where an agent can help you find the policy that's right for you. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? >>> with all corruption we hear in afghanistan, there's no big shock that some of the billions isn't going where intended, but now we're hea
vowed to investigate whether phone hackers targeted 9/11 victims. >>> thousands turn out in afghanistan for the funeral of ahmed wali karzai. the president went openly during that burial. climbing inside the grave to help move his brother's body at one point. karzai was mureded yesterday by a trusted family guard. on the way to the the funeral two roadside bombs was the target but no one hurt. >>> a second memorial service tonight in michigan for betty ford who died friday at 93 was mourned at funeral services yesterday in palm desert, california. among those attending first ladies rosalynn carter and michelle obama and nancy reagan and former president george w. bush was also there. >>> the national league in the all-star game won for the second year in a row. the brewers prince fielder got mf honomvp honors for this home. 14 minutes past the hour. now here is chris. >> the game has to mean something. a blistering heat wave from texas all the way to the east coast. while parts of the northeast which got hit with triple digit temperatures yesterday will finally see some relief today. cb
and afghanistan, which republicans are likely to argue are not true cuts, so whose plan will prevail? in a conference call sunday boehner told his fellow house republicans i think we can win this for the american people, but then it's going to require some of you to make some sacrifices. if we stand together as a team, our leverage is maximized. they have to deal with us. >> that last comment was probably directed at the republican members who have said that they will not vote to raise the debt ceiling under any circumstances. speaker boehner will need their votes if he wants his legislation to win out in what is shaping up to be a partisan showdown. rebecca. >> cbs's nancy cordes on capitol hill. thanks, nancy. >>> if a deal does or does not happen, how does that affect most americans? joining us with answers is robin farzad, and already you are seeing the ripple effect of the uncertainty on the markets, but what's the ripple effect on average americans if this thing doesn't happen? >> it's mostly going to be psychological throughout the week. people perceive -- suddenly start perce
intended to fund projects in afghanistan may be going to extremists, killing u.s. troops. a government audit finds billions of dollars literally disappearing and, now, possibly ending up in the hands of insurgents, molly henneberg is live in washington. hi, molly. what are the problems tracking u.s. money dispersed to afghan. >> reporter: there's a number of them, neither u.s. agencies nor afghan commercial banks record the serial numbers of cash or money transfers, paid to contractors or others in afghanistan. making it tough to track where the dollars go. once they are in afghanistan. also, according to an audit by herbert richardson, the acting special inspector general for afghanistan reconstruction, contractors are not prohibited from using unlicensed middle men to pay subcontractors. richardson wrote in a statement, the u.s. poured billions of aid dollars into a country plagued by corruption, insurgency and the narcotics trade and it is essential that we use all available tools to ensure that u.s. dollars are protected from fraud and diversion to the insurgency. he said at the st
afghanistan. so i'd like to know a little more about why the secretary said this, and what he's basing it on. heather: peter, that's what i was wondering about when i heard this over the weekend, these messages are always crafted very carefully. why send this message now and i'm wondering to what extent it might have been a message to president karzai in afghanistan, hey, we're not going there be there -- going to be there forever, get your house in order or a message to the american public? >> i think it's talking to a lot of people. obviously people in the united states because the president has just decided to withdraw 33,000 troops over the next year from afghanistan. i think he's trying to wind down that war in afghanistan. that's what the president wants. i think you're right, there is also an international audience around the world, and they may also be able to tell al-qaeda or folks who might join al-qaeda that hey, it's not really worth joining up because the fact of the matter is we've got you on the run now. and i do agree with him that it's worthwhile, putting as much pressure on
as the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff discovered for himself this weekend. >>> here in southern afghanistan, soldiers and marines are dodging bullets. when they had a chance to throw questions at the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, their number one concern was the ongoing debate back home over the debt ceiling. >> the checkbook is not unlimited. >> they told soldiers if the talks fail they have to fight, but they may not get paid. >> there plenty of you living paycheck to paycheck. if paychecks were to stop it can have a devastating impact and a devastating impact pretty quickly. >> mullen told marines given the state of the u.s. economy, all the services they said cut back in the size of the force and maybe even military benefits. >> we will have to tighten our belt and prioritize and make hard decisions. >> in the middle of a war zone like many americans, these service members are worried about their jobs and asking what the heck is going on back in washington? >> here's a look at today's schedule. the senate will be in at sdmoon the vote will be set for 1:00 p.m. we will bring you
on the heels of the most absurd unfunded wars in iraq and afghanistan and unfunded trillion dollar medicare and bills and tax cuts for the wealt wealthy. i, myself, voted for all of this. back to my original point. >> welcome back to "morning joe". the medicare plan was a $7 trillion plan. most republicans have been watching. let's take a look now at the morning papers. the san francisco chronicle and a virtual fallout if congress fails to raise the contract. they took out $5.4 billion in loans, covering the bills in case money stops flowing in from washington. new york times under pressure from democratic colleagues, seven term representative, david wu said he would resign from congress following accusations of inappropriate sexual encounters last year. she was much, much younger. before the allegations, he was politically vulnerable. two others were going to challenge him. they have been talking about this going back to college, possible rape charges from his time in stanford. drivers in l.a. may regret paying ticket violations from traffic cameras. they admitted paying the fines is volun
/11. that was the argument that was being made that we had to do all of these other things and got into afghanistan and iraq. so there's no -- there's no argument from me or any republican. in fact, most republicans while you saw the losses in '06 and '08 came from those very republican whose stopped supporting the party, because it moved away from its conservative fiscal principles with respect to spending, by spending so much money. that's been the crust of this whole argument that helped form the tea party. the tea party folks by the way, did not start in 2009. >> right. that's my point. >> they've been in the works some time. >> they were absolutely silent. my point. >> when it came to spending the first coal health of the country. >> to bring it could current day, instead of going through the history, which i appreciate. right now we see that the discussion is back on potentially eliminating tax loopholes, lowering the corporate rate, which i am a big fan of and also part of the paul ryan plan. which was passed. sometimes being, a the speaker of the house can be a little like herding cats. i'm wonderin
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